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Discussion on: Using Coil within a WebExtension

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Desigan CHINNIAH
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thanks @cyberdees .

Hey @scottjenson , glad to have you here.

I share your passion to show as little modals as possible in this process.
If you feel there are good ways of reducing the clicks a person needs to do to support a creator I am very curious!

In future steps I am looking very much forward to also automate this process more, so that ideally a user does not have to click anymore in most cases.
I think the reason why Flattr and Satoshipay failed historically is mostly a UX problem. People get annoyed by having to click on a button everytime they want to support someone.

I think Memex has potential to improve that because it saves is so much metadata about who users get their information from, and how often they interact.
E.g. what do they save, annotate, tag, put in a collection, reply to highlights, follow a collection, how long they stay on a page, how far they scroll etc.

So if we do our job well it could reduce the decision of a user to "how much budget do I have to spend on paying people around me"?

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Scott Jenson

Sorry, I just noticed that this site doesn't notify me when I get mentioned/replied to. Happy to chat of course.

Simple UX is built on two fundamentals: 1) right model 2) Good tech. Most bad UX is a bunch of Band-Aids covering up for any failings. The fundamental tension we have is a limited wallet that, if we remove all buttons/modals, could empty that wallet quickly, frustrating the user. This means we have a fundamental tension. I don't have any simple answers but I'm expecting that strong feedback (some type of 'thermometer' visible to the user) and the ability to rollback expenses (for any surprises) would go a long way. I say this knowing full well that rollbacks are difficult and controversial. But, for me, it's all based on user control. There are studies (which I need to find) showing this has been tried and it wasn't abused.

Happy to discuss this further of course. Just getting back to you quickly as I worry your comment is quite old.

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Scott Jenson

BTW, to avoid missing you in the future, please feel free to reach out to me at scott@jenson.org directly

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Desigan CHINNIAH

Sorry, I just noticed that this site doesn't notify me when I get mentioned/replied to. Happy to chat of course.

This may be a toggle in your settings @scottjenson ...
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Scott Jenson

Thanks, finally got it fixed (I got the email that you replied) so we're all good now. So embarassed. I took >3 weeks to reply. It was over the holidays, but still....