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Ask your questions about the CFP here!

Erika
Bookworm 📚 and solitary walker🏔️. My background is in open technology, community building, and advocacy. Previously at the Mozilla Foundation. She/her.
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Grant for the Web's latest call for proposals is live! We know you you'll have lots of questions, so here are some resources to help you out:

Please use this thread for all questions related to the CFP. We're requesting that all questions are made public so everyone can benefit from the answers.

We are planning three Office Hours sessions across different time zones to answer your questions in a call format. These will take place at the end of August and beginning of September. Stay tuned – we'll post times, dates and signup links the week of August 23rd.

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gFam

It is absolutely great to have a specific place to ask questions... thanks for this Erika!

I did the eligibility quiz because I was curious if previous grantees were eligible and it didn't say no, but it did say that details would need to be provided... so my question is, are expansions/extensions on previous grantee projects eligible (providing they meet all the other criteria)?

Thanks!

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Erika Author • Edited

Great question!

Previous grantees, whose projects are complete and who have received an offboarding email from Ayesha, are eligible to apply for this CFP.

Current grantees may be eligible to apply for an expansion of their previously-funded work, or for a new idea, if they have completed their final reporting and had it accepted by the Program Team by August 31, 2021. Please note that the Program Team often has feedback on final reports: submitting your report is not the same as having it approved.

For current grantees that won't be ready by this deadline, don't worry - there will more more open CFPs to come. We intend to release these opportunities on a regular basis.

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gFam

Thanks Erika, that explains this scenario perfectly! Thank you so much!

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Radhy

What is grant committee stance on having active grantees to join a new team for this call for proposal?

I have friends back from college back when I was still a film student, and apparently they still get in touch with film industry in my country. Some of them work in national TV broadcast, but there are few of them move between projects to projects as freelance film crews who readily available and I think their expertise might be useful to create projects or resources for Web Monetization community. I've talked to one of them and suggest he should apply for this year CFP, but since none of them have been exposed to Web Monetization previously, I planned to join the team to support as a tech person and help them with their proposal.

Thanks before!

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Chris Lawrence

You can help them for sure and can be named as an expert on the project, but as a current grantee you can't be the lead. We would suggest more of an informal advisor roll at this time.

Here is the policy regarding this:

Previous grantees, whose projects are complete and who have received an offboarding email from Ayesha, are eligible to apply for this CFP.

Current grantees may be eligible to apply for an expansion of their previously-funded work, or for a new idea, if they have completed their final reporting and had it accepted by the Program Team by August 31, 2021. Please note that the Program Team often has feedback on final reports: submitting your report is not the same as having it approved.

For current grantees that won't be ready by this deadline, don't worry - there will more more open CFPs to come. We intend to release these opportunities on a regular basis.

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Radhy

Thanks for the reply Chris!

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Abhinav Chawla

Hey everyone, while working over my previous project, I had an idea to build a tool to extend the reach of the technology to more hands with a eventually multiple use cases, but I wasn't sure if it fit the second category for the new CFP, so thought I'll ask it here (thanks for setting up this post!)

I was wondering to build to an API/integration where people visiting a particular location (historical site, sporting arena, conferences, etc) can simply scan a QR code, connect their Coil accounts quickly, and while they enjoy the services within the location, they automatically donate for it in the background without specifically being lured into donating a specific amount before you leave. For example, if I'm going to a car show, and the car show is raising money for some charity, while I'm at the show looking at cars, I'm also easily donating without being pressurized by someone (or my own guilt).

That's basically how the idea came, so was thinking to build a generic location-based-BTP token generator and simple dashboard for an organization to create an event to share. Probably, also a sample PWA/mobile application which could be connecting the both and used by organizations to customize and deploy if they want to move away from a default version - again lots to think there.

I just wanted to get a feedback if this would fit the scope of any of the categories? If not, I had a couple other ideas as well that I could explore deeper.

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Alex Lakatos

From a technology point of view though, I don't think this is feasible. Coil needs the extension or Puma to be active on a page with a payment pointer, so while you walk around a venue, you'd have to constantly have your phone open and active on a payment pointered web page (which I don't think is realistic from a UX perspective).

The other option would be extremely complicated and resouce intensive: you'd need to become a Web Monetization provider yourself (like Coil), which involves some non-technical hurdles that need to be overcome, mainly getting a corporate relation with one of the wallet providers in the network.

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Abhinav Chawla

Hey @laka , thanks for the response. That sounds fair enough. I had the same issue and that's why was thinking to specifically try to solve it one way or another, but wasn't sure if it would be possible overall. I was thinking to have a PWA run in the background actively (again not sure if it's possible) or use the BTP token and somehow emulate the webpage through a backend service using the Coil script - and the timing is dicatated by user's location from the phone. In either case, some backend process would be needed to be running on the phone to have a good UX.

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Alex Lakatos

I don't think PWAs would work, even with using something like periodicSync. The background processes aren't as active as advertised, you'd be streaming at a much lower rate than the current rate of 36 cents/hour.

The Coil extension is open-source, you could reverse-engineer the tokenization they do to the payment pointer, and make HTTP requests to the Coil BTP endpoint form a server, that should work. It would still be a significant engineering effort, but I think shorter than the alternative.

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Lindsay

Quick question: I know that you aren't funding travel this time around, but can we include travel in the budget if it is funded by another source? Or, should travel be left out of the projects all together? Thank you!

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Victoria Coker

Hi again, Is the community of creators very accessible to collaborate -- my proposal is really focused on collaborating with the current creative platforms built in the space. If so any suggestions on how to do outreach? Thanks

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Chris Lawrence

Hi @victoriac While this is still a young community we have found it to be creative, social and collaborative. A good place to get a sense of that is on these hashtags within the space #grantreports #roudups and #discuss If you want to get me your project/collaboration ask and/or open ended question about collaboration, I'd be happy to feature as our next weekly discussion topic.

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Victoria Coker • Edited

Is there any deadline for when a project must be completed if applying for this round of call for proposals?

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Erika Author

Hi Victoria. Projects should be scoped for 6-months and should aim to be completed mid-2022. We anticipate work starting in December or January. There is a fairly simply process for extension requests, if required.

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Victoria Coker

Thanks Erika for clearing that up.

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Joseph Longshak

Good afternoon,

I want to understand: ''current technology?" and "technical dependencies"

Under: Is your project feasible with the current technology? What technical dependencies are there?

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Alex Lakatos

Current technology refers to the available Interledger implementations and resources - the JavaScript, Java & Rust connectors, Rafiki and the Web Monetization API are a few of the examples.

Technical dependencies refers to the things you think you'll need in order to make your project work. They're not exactly limited to the above, so feel free to think about anything you think you'll need from a tech point of view.

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Joseph Longshak

Thank you very much Alex.